You are not going crazy, the world is changing. Be accountable to yourself and your family. If everyone does that, we'll be fine.
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Last Notes npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt Is there a list of "good" relays anywhere? I just use the default ones. (Currently I don't get spam) npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt Question, how do relays and client devs make money? It's fine that it's all passion projects in the early days, but at some point market forces must align for freedom and censorship resistance. @npub16c0…6nvr , how does Primal make money? I enjoy the product and am using it for free. I try to Zap good posts a few times a day, but that's paying to encourage high quality content. I forsee an eventual Nostr environment with many different individual experiences depending on how value is generated (ads /spam for those who don't pay, client and relay fee/zaps for better more tuneable experience). I'm curious if there is growing consensus on how this might eventually work. npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt GM, I don't mean to brag, but I have 24 followers and zero spam. npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt Should one periodically wave their hand over the heat to check the temperature? npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt Great points. I agree it's not perfect, but each user could tune how much they want to slow down spammers vs not see valuable content. I like the upfront PoW cost as a further hurdle and I like the WoT / meet up layers as well. Maybe some of all of it. I suspect there is no silver bullet, but also that real Nostr users who put in the effort and PoW should have better visibility. Interesting about Gel's comment that this can turn into an elite club. Real world example in Club House. It will be fun to see how this evolves. npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt Love the discussion, thank you! Sorry I wasn't more explicit, but I meant use the Bitcoin network and existing PoW protocol. In other words, every post, like, and repost would require a one or more Satoshi transaction, but imbedded in the protocol, in your client. You can acquire those sats any way you ordinarily get sats... great quality content to earn zaps, buy them, mine, etc. npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt Seems like this problem was already solved with Adam Back's proof of work. Read is free, but impose a physical cost to write. That cost has to be enough to make spam economically infeasible, but not so drastic as to impact anyone's ability to afford to write. The relay, client, and individual settings dictate the filter level of PoW cost to write. Some experience low or no spam, some experience higher value (more expensive) spam, some experience lots of spam... all based on preference. If the AIs create valuable enough "spam" then users will want to see it and the individuals paying to spam will be able to afford it. For a cost example, one sat per post would mean about $7 per year for 30 posts every day. Just making this up as I go, what are the problems with this strategy? npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt 😂 npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt Thank you and GN! npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt GM, hope everyone has a great day building things and playing with their Bitcoin. ☕ npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt Not a TA guy, but I tried drawing lines based on the new trend of higher lows during lower highs. If this "astrology for men" works then *something* will happen around September 27th, the question as always is, what? Rational Roots spiral chart is cool. Last time peaked between 10k and 100k, next one could peak between 100k and 1M. Would be pretty epic to melt faces to 700k over the next year or so. All the aforementioned price and time speculation is somewhat hollow, but it wouldn't be out of line historically speaking for it to play out this way. Ironically if it didn't play out that way... it would indicate something actually being different this time. https://m.primal.net/KtNk.png npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt Agree. Dylan is legit. Lucky to have him focused on Bitcoin. npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt Charlie don't surf! npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt Who pays for and who benefits from the memes of production? Who is John Galt? npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt lol, nailed it! value in and value out. nothing is free npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt ...could a also provide financial incentive to make client applications with elegance, control, and constantly improving end user experience. We may all end up spending $12 / month but based on usage and in a free market of ideas and applications. npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt How about a hash cash based pow concept where nostritches have to Zap the network or a specific relay or something like that to make a post. Cost to post goes up until spam decreases, almost like a difficulty adjustment. Every action (post, like, repost, etc) all has imbedded zaps. It would also be acceptable for a lower tier, less expensive experience that has more spam but costs less (nothing?). In this way end users can specify how much they want to spend and what they want their experience to be like. Could also provide incentive to run relays. Market dynamics would reward most freedom, least censorship, best / fastest relay performance. npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt I like this a lot. #note15zg…g54f npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt I'm calmer than you are. npub1ksjfxj7vf0s4vm796xfu2vjlv4lcqgnc0g962pdz8gcwnv5azv9s3cpqsj JohnGalt Pura Vida!